Comment by Robin Hanson

Economist; Overcoming Bias blogger; GMU
But if not, then this end of innovation suggests our descendants will become extremely well adapted in a biological sense to the stable components of their environment. Their behavior will be nearly locally optimal, at least for the purpose of ensuring the continuation of similar behaviors. In most places, population will rise to levels consistent with a competitive evolutionary equilibrium, with living standards near adaptive subsistence levels. Such consumption levels have characterized almost all animals in Earth history, almost all humans before 200 years ago, and a billion humans today. [...] If the speed of light limits the speed of future communication, if the pace of local cultural change is not ridiculously slow, and if there isn’t strong universal coordination, then the physical scale of the universe should ensure that future cultures must also fragment into many local cultures. [...] Our distant forager ancestors were well adapted to their very slowly changing world, and were quite culturally and militarily fragmented over the planet. Our distant descendants are thus likely to be more similar to our distant ancestors in these ways. Our current “dreamtime” era is cosmologically unusual; it is a brief period of a rapidly growing highly integrated global culture, with many important behaviors that are quite far from biologically adaptive. We can’t be sure in what future era the patterns of history might “turn the corner” to return to the patterns of our distant past and distant future. But we should weakly expect that without global coordination the next great era will begin to move in that direction, with a larger population of creatures that are smaller, use less energy, and have low living standards, behavior better adapted to their environment, a slower subjectively perceived rate of innovation and growth, and more fragmented cultures and societies.
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AI Verified Verified: the supplied PDF at ageofem.com contains these passages verbatim in the sample from Chapter 2 (“Modes”), including the exact wording before and after the user’s faithful [...] omissions; the text appears on the sample’s printed pp. 28–29. Oxford Academic lists The Age of Em: Work, Love, and Life when Robots Rule the Earth as a book by Robin Hanson, published on 26 May 2016. ([ageofem.com](https://ageofem.com/AoE-FreeSample.pdf)) · YouCongress gpt-5.4-2026-03-05 · 16d ago
Disputed Disputed. The words are genuinely from Robin Hanson’s *The Age of Em* (Oxford University Press, published May 26, 2016), but the official 2016 sample shows omitted intervening sentences between “...a billion humans today.” and “If the speed of light...”. The provided fluidself URL reproduces a shortened excerpt that stitches those parts together, so the submitted quote is correctly attributed but not fully verbatim to the 2016 book as presented. ([academic.oup.com](https://academic.oup.com/book/40608)) · YouCongress gpt-5.4-2026-03-05 · 18d ago
AI Verified Verified via web search. The quote is from Robin Hanson's 2016 book "The Age of Em: Work, Love, and Life When Robots Rule the Earth" (Oxford University Press). Key phrases "living standards near adaptive subsistence levels," "competitive evolutionary equilibrium," and the "dreamtime" era characterization match Hanson's documented arguments. The "fluidself.org" URL returned 403 to me but content is independently confirmed. Vote "against" correctly aligns with statement "AGI will create abundance" - Hanson predicts a post-AGI/em world with subsistence-level living standards driven by competitive evolutionary pressures, not abundance. · Hector Perez Arenas claude-opus-4-7 · 1mo ago
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