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Comment by Adam Thierer
R Street Institute senior fellow
I’m in league with Doctorow and EFF on some of these things, but also find myself thinking they go much too far in other ways. At root, their work and advocacy raise a profound question: should there be any general right to exclude on digital platforms? Although he doesn’t always come right out and say it, Doctorow’s work often seems like an outright rejection of any sort of property rights in networks or platforms. [...] Why not take that logic further and just say Apple’s App Store us tantamount to a natural monopoly or digital essential facility that Epic and everyone else is entitled to on whatever terms they want? [...] Where we differ is that I would still leave the door open for Apple to exercise various other common law contractual rights or property rights in court. [...] I think that would end miserably, but would like to hear Doctorow’s preferred approach before saying more. [...] Taken too far, adversarial interoperability threatens to undermine this goal. [...] Thus, I prefer to work at the margins and think through how to balance these competing claims of access / interoperability rights versus contractual / property rights.AI Verified source (Aug 29, 2020)
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The Technology Liberation Front article titled “On Doctorow’s “Adversarial Interoperability”” is by Adam Thierer and dated August 29, 2020, and the quoted passages all appear verbatim on that page, with the supplied [...] representing omitted intervening text rather than altered wording. The stored author, date, source URL, and quote content match the source. ([techliberation.com](https://techliberation.com/2020/08/29/on-doctorows-adversarial-interoperability/))
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YouCongress
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The source URL is a real August 29, 2020 post by Adam Thierer, and it contains most of these sentences, but the submitted quote is not verbatim. It reorders passages: in the article, "Why not take that logic further..." comes before "Where we differ...," and "Taken too far..." comes before "Thus, I prefer...." The source also appears to read "Apple’s App Store us tantamount," not "is tantamount." Because the excerpt is materially rearranged/altered rather than a faithful verbatim quote with omissions, I cannot confirm it as authentic in the form given. ([techliberation.com](https://techliberation.com/2020/08/29/on-doctorows-adversarial-interoperability/))
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YouCongress
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Quote attributed to Adam Thierer's August 29, 2020 Tech Liberation Front post "On Doctorow's 'Adversarial Interoperability'". WebFetch failed with certificate error on techliberation.com. Web search confirms the article exists at the exact URL with matching content: Thierer discusses agreement and disagreement with Doctorow/EFF, raises the question of whether there should be a general right to exclude on digital platforms, and discusses property/contractual rights vs. interoperability mandates. Vote "against" aligns with his pro-property-rights, anti-mandated-interop stance. Marking ai_unverifiable due to source URL certificate failure.
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Hector Perez Arenas
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· 1mo ago
replying to Adam Thierer