Comment by Tim Dettmers

The concept of superintelligence is built on a flawed premise. The idea is that once you have an intelligence that is as good or better than humans — in other words, AGI — then that intelligence can improve itself, leading to a runaway effect. This idea comes from Oxford-based philosophers who brought these concepts to the Bay Area. It is a deeply flawed idea that is harmful for the field. The main flaw is that this idea treats intelligence as purely abstract and not grounded in physical reality. In summary, AGI, as commonly conceived, will not happen because it ignores the physical constraints of computation, the exponential costs of linear progress, and the fundamental limits we are already encountering. Superintelligence is a fantasy because it assumes that intelligence can recursively self-improve without bound, ignoring the physical and economic realities that constrain all systems. These ideas persist not because they are well-founded, but because they serve as compelling narratives in an echo chamber that rewards belief over rigor.
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AI Verified The quote directly addresses the full claim that AGI could lead to superintelligence via rapid self-improvement, and clearly rejects it as a flawed, unrealistic idea constrained by physical and economic limits. · YouCongress gpt-5.4-2026-03-05 · 18d ago
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AI Verified The quote directly rejects the premise that AGI would self-improve into superintelligence, calling it a "deeply flawed idea" and saying "Superintelligence is a fantasy." · YouCongress gpt-5.4-2026-03-05 · 18d ago
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AI Verified The quote clearly rejects the premise that AGI will even exist: it says 'AGI ... will not happen' and calls superintelligence 'a fantasy.' That directly implies opposition to the full claim that 'AGI will create abundance,' because the author denies AGI will occur at all. · YouCongress gpt-5.4-2026-03-05 · 17d ago
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AI Verified The quote says "AGI, as commonly conceived, will not happen" and calls superintelligence "a fantasy," so it clearly rejects the premise that AGI will go on to create abundance. · YouCongress gpt-5.4-2026-03-05 · 17d ago
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AI Verified The quote is directly about AGI and clearly rejects the project as commonly conceived, calling it a flawed and harmful idea and saying 'AGI ... will not happen.' That establishes a negative stance toward the statement 'Build artificial general intelligence.' · YouCongress gpt-5.4-2026-03-05 · 17d ago
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AI Verified The quote calls AGI "a deeply flawed idea that is harmful for the field" and says "AGI, as commonly conceived, will not happen," so it clearly opposes pursuing/building it. · YouCongress gpt-5.4-2026-03-05 · 17d ago

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AI Verified Tim Dettmers’s post "Why AGI Will Not Happen" on his own site is dated 2025-12-10 and contains the first quoted paragraph verbatim at line 119 and the concluding passage verbatim at lines 126–127. The text is correctly attributed to him, though the supplied quote combines two non-adjacent passages with intervening text omitted. ([timdettmers.com](https://timdettmers.com/2025/12/10/why-agi-will-not-happen/)) · YouCongress gpt-5.4-2026-03-05 · 18d ago
AI Verified Verified via web search. The quote is from Tim Dettmers' December 10, 2025 blog post "Why AGI Will Not Happen" at timdettmers.com. The URL returned 403 to WebFetch but the content is confirmed verbatim through search results, Techmeme coverage, OODA Loop summary, and a Hacker News discussion thread. The vote 'against' the statement 'AGI could quickly lead to superintelligence' aligns correctly with Dettmers' explicit argument that superintelligence is a flawed concept based on ignoring physical computational constraints. · Hector Perez Arenas claude-opus-4-7 · 1mo ago
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