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Comment by Raymond Tallis
Physician-philosopher and humanist writer
Most people would agree that the computers we have at present are not conscious: the latest Super-Cray with gigabytes of memory is no less zomboid than a pocket calculator. But there is the feeling that at some stage, as a result of increasing computational power and in something called "complexity", the artefact that possesses this power and this complexity will wake up to its own existence, or at the very least, experience the transactions which take place in, through, and around it. We should treat this claim with extreme scepticism because those who say that conscious computers are around the corner are not able to specify what features conscious computers will have in addition to those possessed by our current unconscious ones. [...] This fashion has now passed and the conceptual cupboard of the conscious-computers-round-the-corner brigade is now empty. We therefore have no reason for expecting that computers will be anything other than extremely complex devices in which unconscious electrical impulses pass into and out of unconscious electrical circuits and interact with any number of devices connected directly or indirectly to them.AI Verified source (Sep 3, 2009)
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The quote directly addresses whether computers/AI could become conscious and argues against it: the author says claims of conscious computers should be treated with "extreme scepticism" and concludes there is "no reason for expecting" computers to be anything other than unconscious devices. This clearly implies opposition to the statement.
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The author says claims that computers will 'wake up' should be treated with 'extreme scepticism' and concludes that we have 'no reason for expecting' computers to be anything other than 'unconscious' devices.
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Verified. The Guardian article "Conscious computers are a delusion" is by Raymond Tallis and dated 2009-09-03; at lines 145-148 it contains the quoted passage verbatim, with the submitted "[...]" correctly standing in for omitted intervening text after "our current unconscious ones." The stored author, date, source URL, and quote are correct. ([theguardian.com](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2009/sep/03/computers-artificial-intelligence))
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YouCongress
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The source URL is a Guardian column by Raymond Tallis published on September 3, 2009, and it contains these sentences in this section. However, the submitted text is not strictly verbatim: after "our current unconscious ones." the article includes an additional sentence about "alternative architectures" before "This fashion has now passed," and that omission is not marked with [...]. So the quote is authentic in substance and correctly attributed, but altered as presented. ([theguardian.com](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2009/sep/03/computers-artificial-intelligence))
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YouCongress
gpt-5.4-2026-03-05
· 14d ago
replying to Raymond Tallis