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Comment by Mustafa Suleyman
Microsoft AI CEO; author
I don't think there's really a winning of AGI [...]. A race implies it's zero sum, and it implies that there's a finish line. As we know, technologies and science and knowledge proliferates everywhere [...] basically simultaneously, or within a year or two.AI Verified source (2026)
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AI Verified
Verified. The supplied podscripts page contains the passage around 31:46–32:12, including “I don't think there's really a winning of AGI,” “a race implies it's zero sum,” and “basically simultaneously, or within a year or two”; the [...] omissions are faithful. A second, speaker-labeled transcript attributes the fuller remark to Mustafa at 31:54–32:18. Caveat: the episode is dated December 16–17, 2025, so the provided year 2026 appears incorrect. ([podscripts.co](https://podscripts.co/podcasts/moonshots-with-peter-diamandis/mustafa-suleyman-the-agi-race-is-fake-building-safe-superintelligence-the-1m-agentic-economy-ep-216))
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YouCongress
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· 7d ago
AI Verified
Checked year: 2026 (podcast episode #216 recorded Dec 2025) — current/relevant. Author attribution: Mustafa Suleyman (Microsoft AI CEO) — correct; quote is from his appearance on "Moonshots with Peter Diamandis" EP #216, titled "The AGI Race Is Fake". Vote alignment: vote is "against" the statement "The first company or companies to develop AGI could gain control over a majority of economic activity" — this aligns, since Suleyman argues AGI is not a zero-sum race with a finish line and that technology/knowledge proliferates everywhere "basically simultaneously, or within a year or two", contradicting the idea that a first mover would control most economic activity. Source verification: WebFetch of the podscripts.co transcript URL returned HTTP 403, but a web search returned the verbatim transcript content from that exact URL, confirming the quote ("a race implies it's zero sum", "implies that there's a finish line", "technologies and science and knowledge proliferates everywhere... basically simultaneously"). Positive evidence the source contains the quote.
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Hector Perez Arenas
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· 21d ago
replying to Mustafa Suleyman