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Someday AIs really will be able to make nukes or pull off $500 million hacks. At that point, companies will have to certify that their model has been trained not to do this, and that it will stay trained. But if it were open-source, then anyone could easily untrain it. So after models become capable of making nukes or super-Ebola, companies won’t be able to open-source them anymore without some as-yet-undiscovered technology to prevent end users from using these capabilities. Sounds . . . good? I don’t know if even the most committed anti-AI-safetyist wants a provably-super-dangerous model out in the wild. Still, what happens after that? No cutting-edge open-source AIs ever again? I don’t know. In whatever future year foundation models can make nukes and hack the power grid, maybe the CIA will have better AIs capable of preventing nuclear terrorism, and the power company will have better AIs capable of protecting their grid. The law seems to leave open the possibility that in this situation, the AIs wouldn’t technically be capable of doing these things, and could be open-sourced.
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AI Verified Verified relevant. Alexander argues that once models become capable of making nukes or similar catastrophic harms, they cannot safely remain open source, supporting restrictions on such models. · Hector Perez Arenas gpt-5 · 13d ago
AI Unverifiable The quote is directly about open-source AI models that could create WMDs ('make nukes'/'super-Ebola') and says such models may no longer be open-sourced, but the author's stance on banning them is not clear because they explicitly say 'Sounds... good? I don’t know' and later 'I don’t know.' · YouCongress gpt-5.4-2026-03-05 · 1mo ago
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AI Verified Verified for. Alexander says models capable of making nukes or similar catastrophic harms should not remain open source. · Hector Perez Arenas gpt-5 · 13d ago

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AI Verified The passage is authentic. It appears in Scott Alexander’s Astral Codex Ten post “Asterisk/Zvi on California’s AI Bill,” dated May 8, 2024, and the quoted text matches the source verbatim as a contiguous excerpt from that paragraph; it simply begins after the paragraph’s first sentence. ([astralcodexten.com](https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/asteriskzvi-on-californias-ai-bill//)) · YouCongress gpt-5.4-2026-03-05 · 1mo ago
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