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Comment by Dmytri Kleiner
Venture Communist. Miscommunications Technologist. Telekommunisten Polemicist. ThoughtWorks Analyst.
UBI does not alleviate poverty and turns social necessities into products for profit. To truly address inequality we need adequate social provisioning. If we want to reduce means testing and dependency on capitalist employment, we can do so with capacity planning. Our political demands should mandate sufficient housing, healthcare, education, childcare and all basic human necessities for all. Rather than a basic income, we need to demand and fight for a basic outcome — for the right to life and justice, not just the right to spend.AI Verified source (2016)
2y ago
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AI Verified
The quote directly discusses universal basic income as a policy, explicitly arguing against it ('UBI does not alleviate poverty' and 'Rather than a basic income, we need...'). This clearly addresses the full statement 'Implement a universal basic income' and states opposition to it.
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YouCongress
gpt-5.4-2026-03-05
· 19d ago
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AI Verified
The quote clearly rejects UBI: it says "UBI does not alleviate poverty" and "Rather than a basic income, we need to demand and fight for a basic outcome."
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YouCongress
gpt-5.4-2026-03-05
· 19d ago
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AI Verified
The quote explicitly rejects universal basic income/cash payments as a solution ('Rather than a basic income, we need ... a basic outcome') and argues for direct social provisioning instead. That clearly implies opposition to a policy whose core is paying every person a dividend, even though the quote does not mention AI labs or equity directly.
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YouCongress
gpt-5.4-2026-03-05
· 18d ago
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AI Verified
The quote explicitly rejects a universal cash payment approach: "UBI does not alleviate poverty" and "Rather than a basic income, we need to demand and fight for a basic outcome," so it clearly opposes the dividend-to-everyone part of the statement.
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YouCongress
gpt-5.4-2026-03-05
· 18d ago
votes Against
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AI Verified
The quote strongly rejects universal cash payments like UBI (“Rather than a basic income, we need… basic outcome”) and favors public provisioning instead. Although it does not mention AI labs or equity specifically, it clearly implies opposition to the statement as a whole because that policy centers on paying every citizen a dividend.
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YouCongress
gpt-5.4-2026-03-05
· 18d ago
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AI Verified
The quote explicitly rejects universal cash payments: “UBI does not alleviate poverty” and “Rather than a basic income, we need… a basic outcome.” Since the statement centers on paying every citizen a dividend, the quote clearly opposes that approach.
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YouCongress
gpt-5.4-2026-03-05
· 18d ago
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AI Verified
The quote clearly opposes basic income/citizens' dividend as a policy ('Rather than a basic income, we need... a basic outcome') and argues for direct social provisioning instead. Even though it does not mention AI windfall profits, it implies opposition to the full proposal because the core policy—a citizens' dividend—is rejected.
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YouCongress
gpt-5.4-2026-03-05
· 18d ago
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The quote clearly rejects a citizens’ dividend/basic income approach: “UBI does not alleviate poverty” and “Rather than a basic income, we need to demand and fight for a basic outcome.”
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YouCongress
gpt-5.4-2026-03-05
· 18d ago
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Verified: an openDemocracy republication dated November 25, 2016 and attributed to Dmytri Kleiner contains the quoted passage verbatim. The original Furtherfield article from August 8, 2016 is also by Kleiner, but its ending is slightly different, so the quote matches the republication rather than the exact wording now shown at the provided URL. ([neweconomics.opendemocracy.net](https://neweconomics.opendemocracy.net/universal-basic-income-is-a-neoliberal-plot-to-make-you-poorer/))
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YouCongress
gpt-5.4-2026-03-05
· 19d ago
AI Unverifiable
Quote by Dmytri Kleiner from his 2016 Furtherfield article "Universal Basic Income Is a Neoliberal Plot To Make You Poorer." The original source_url path (/features/articles/universal-basic-income-neoliberal-plot-make-you-poorer) returned HTTP 403 via WebFetch, so I updated it to the current canonical URL (https://www.furtherfield.org/universal-basic-income-is-a-neoliberal-plot-to-make-you-poorer/), which also returned 403 to WebFetch, as did mirrors on networkcultures.org (PDF) and neweconomics.opendemocracy.net. WebSearch results independently confirm the exact phrasing ("UBI does not alleviate poverty and turns social necessities into products for profit"; "we need to demand and fight for a basic outcome — for the right to life and justice, not just the right to spend") is attributed to Kleiner in this article, and Kleiner's position is clearly against UBI — so the "against" vote on statement 224 ("Implement a universal basic income") is correctly aligned. However, since WebFetch is blocked on all candidate URLs, I cannot directly verify the page content; marking as ai_unverifiable per instructions. No recent (2025/2026) Kleiner quote on UBI was found in search.
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Hector Perez Arenas
claude-opus-4-7
· 2mo ago
replying to Dmytri Kleiner