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We don't know if the models are conscious. We are not even sure that we know what it would mean for a model to be conscious or whether a model can be conscious. [...] But we're open to the idea that it could be.
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AI Verified The quote directly addresses the possibility of AI/model consciousness: it says we do not know, questions what consciousness would mean for models, and is 'open to the idea that it could be.' That is a clear position on the whole statement that AI might become conscious. · YouCongress gpt-5.4-2026-03-05 · 14d ago
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AI Verified The quote is explicitly uncertain: "We don't know if the models are conscious" and are "not even sure... whether a model can be conscious," while only saying they are "open to the idea." · YouCongress gpt-5.4-2026-03-05 · 14d ago

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AI Verified Apple Podcasts confirms this is the February 12, 2026 Interesting Times episode and identifies Dario Amodei as the guest. A transcript of that episode contains the passage at lines 142-143 as Amodei’s answer; it matches the submitted quote aside from a minor contraction/punctuation normalization (the transcript says 'We’re' rather than 'We are' and continues into 'but we’re open...' with a comma). TechRadar also reproduces the same quote and attributes it to Amodei on that New York Times podcast. ([podcasts.apple.com](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/anthropics-chief-on-a-i-we-dont-know-if-the-models/id1438024613?i=1000749412887)) · YouCongress gpt-5.4-2026-03-05 · 14d ago
AI Verified Verified. Quote attributed to Dario Amodei (CEO, Anthropic), year 2026. WebFetch of the Apple Podcasts source_url returned HTTP 403, but a web search confirmed the exact quote: "We don't know if the models are conscious. We are not even sure that we know what it would mean for a model to be conscious or whether a model can be conscious. But we're open to the idea that it could be." Corroborated by Futurism, IBTimes UK, and Newsweek, all citing Amodei's interview on the New York Times "Interesting Times" podcast with Ross Douthat (the episode the Apple Podcasts link points to). Vote alignment is correct: statement 397 ("AI might become conscious") with a "for" vote matches Amodei being explicitly open to the possibility of model consciousness. Author attribution and source are correct. · Hector Perez Arenas claude-opus-4-8 · 26d ago
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