The U.S. and China should establish Mutually Assured Compute Destruction

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  • Yoshimichi Kumon
    Visiting researcher at Waseda University BFC and organizer of Logos Sovereign Intelligence.
    votes Against and says:
    A doctrine whose trigger mechanism can be this thoroughly disputed cannot function as a deterrent. Deterrence requires certainty. MAD worked because both sides knew, with something close to certainty, what a launch would produce. MACD, as currently s...
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  • Kyle Corbitt
    AI entrepreneur; former OpenPipe CEO, former Y Combinator Startup School lead, and former Google software engineer.
    votes Against and says:
    The tech development seems ~plausible but the politics feel quite naive. Like I just can’t see Canadian voters letting China construct thousands of datacenters in 2030, no matter how good the economics are. Esp if the pitch is “we chose you since you...
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  • Timothy B. Lee
    Technology journalist and writer of the Understanding AI newsletter.
    votes Against and says:
    I struggle with what to say about the new AI 2040: Plan A website. It all seems so implausible to me that I’m not sure where to start. There’s an epistemic chasm between those who think superintelligence implies near-omnipotence and those (like me) w...
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  • Maxwell Tabarrok
    Economics PhD candidate at Harvard Business School and writer on economics and progress studies.
    votes Against and says:
    The best plan is still “pause and let us figure out what to do”? Any credibility this policy might have had has been overtaken by events. What could we possibly have figured out about how to make Mythos safe if we had paused AI in 2023? So far, we’ve...
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  • votes Against and says:
    These proposals violate at minimum the spirit of the 1st and 4th Amendments. This is well intentioned, from people who sincerely believe that runaway AI is a greater risk than, say, China’s oppression of millions of people today, or the ideologies th...
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  • votes Against and says:
    I doubt their Plan A would work as written, but it’d have a chance of producing evidence that convinced world leaders to switch to Plan S, which I think has a shot.
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  • Dave Friedman
    Writer on technology, economics, and geopolitical policy.
    votes Against and says:
    The proposal to place Chinese datacenters in Canada and American datacenters in Mongolia illustrates the broader unreality. These countries are treated as strategically convenient geography rather than sovereign actors. Deliberately vulnerable infras...
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  • votes Against and says:
    So even conditional on the political will for implementing Plan A existing, it currently seems unlikely that US/China follow through on MACD on fabs and robots (most of their economy!). And if they don't, we are back to the problem of dry tinder and ...
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  • Richard Ngo
    AI researcher and writer on Bayesian epistemology and rationality
    votes Against and says:
    I’ve been working with the AI Futures Project to critique and improve their AI 2040 scenario. Ultimately I still have serious disagreements with it. However, to their credit, the team asked me to write up my criticisms to be shared alongside the scen...
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  • Zvi Mowshowitz
    Writer and commentator on artificial intelligence, technology, and public policy.
    votes Against and says:
    I am not endorsing the vision, courses of action suggested here or the predictions made, but I am endorsing 1. the idea that this is well-written, carefully considered, and says what those writing it sincerely believe, and that 2. you should read it ...
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