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Bayesian analysis is the right framework for settling the COVID-19 origins question
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Michael ShermerSkeptic founder; science writer and columnistvotes For and says:
This is still a viable conspiracy theory that could be true. As far as I'm concerned, it's more likely to be true than the wet market origins. So, I think that's why, again during COVID, what I would have liked to see is our public policymakers and p...
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Argumend TeamEditorial team behind Argumend, a critical-thinking and argument-analysis platform.votes For and says:
You can watch this play out on genuinely unresolved questions like COVID's origins, where the honest position is an explicit probability that shifts as withheld evidence becomes available — not a flag planted on one side.
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Jasper BlankLessWrong author writing on claim graphs and Bayesian evidence aggregationvotes For and says:
The core Bayesian formula. It allows us to calculate what our hypothesis H should be given the evidence E. The only problem with this formula is that it can not easily integrate multiple pieces of evidence. For that we will need to do a slight rewrit...
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Quantifying Evidence for Competing Biomedical Hypotheses using Large Language Models and Bayesian Analysis2026 bioRxiv preprint on LLM-assisted biomedical hypothesis comparison using Bayesian analysis.votes For and says:
Here, we introduce KM-GPT-DCH, an algorithm that combines co-occurrence methods with large language models (LLMs) to develop a transparent and reproducible literature-based algorithm to compare controversial hypotheses using a structured scoring appr...
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Bob Morris, MD, PhDEpidemiologist and writer at the University of Washington School of Public Health; author of The Blue Deathvotes For and says:
Throughout the exchange I returned repeatedly to the same request: assign probabilities to the six propositions and multiply them together.
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Joshua BrooksSubstack commenter on Bayesian analysis of COVID-19 originsvotes For and says:
Seems to me a complete Bayesian treatment would require explicit probability assessments, or at least sensitivity tests, for the full sequence [...] I can't see how a full Bayesian analysis wouldn't integrate, or at least sensitivity-test, these beha...
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Marginal RevolutionEconomics and public affairs blog covering research, policy, and current events.votes For and says:
After correcting a fundamental error in Bayesian reasoning, the results presented in that paper imply larger likelihood for a single introduction, reducing the plausibility of the wet-market zoonosis account of Covid’s origins.
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Michael B. WeissmanPhysicist, Professor Emeritus at the University of Illinoisvotes For and says:
Using only the data, model, and simulations of P2022 itself, I show that once a basic logic error is fixed the P2022 approach implies that a single successful spillover of SARS CoV-2 was more likely than a double successful spillover pair. The EJW pa...
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EJW AudioEcon Journal Watch podcast page covering scholarly debate on COVID-19 originsvotes For and says:
Weissman uses a simple analogy to explain the error. Correcting the error using the data, model, and simulations of the original paper reverses the implication of the analysis-the single-introduction likelihood becomes greater than the two-introducti...
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Washington ExaminerU.S. news publication covering politics, policy, and public affairs.votes For and says:
Ridley described his argument as a "good old Bayesian thing, you add up all the probabilities until you get to a final result," or a court case in which a jury reaches the most reasonable conclusion.
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Matt RidleyBritish science writer and peervotes For and says:
Instead, Ridley described his argument as a "good old Bayesian thing, you add up all the probabilities until you get to a final result," or a court case in which a jury reaches the most reasonable conclusion.
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Steven NovellaYale neurologist and science communicatorvotes For and says:
There are two types of evidence, broadly speaking, we can bring to bear on this question. The first is epidemiological – looking at the earliest cases of COVID including the strains of virus with which they were infected, and data on the virus (such ...
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Econ Journal WatchAcademic journal publishing scholarly comments, including 2026 work on Bayesian reasoning and COVID-19 originsvotes For and says:
An influential article claimed that Bayesian analysis of the molecular phylogeny of early SARS-CoV-2 cases indicated that the likelihood that two successful introductions to humans had occurred was greater than the likelihood that just one had occurr...
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John JanikPhysicist and Substack author writing on COVID-19 origins and Bayesian analysisvotes For and says:DelegateChoose a list of delegatesto vote as the majority of them.Unless you vote directly.
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Andrew GoldHost of the Heretics podcast.votes For and says:
Shermer uses Bayesian reasoning to distinguish real conspiracies from speculation—showing why even die-hard skeptics must update their views when hard evidence emerges.
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Department of Political and Social Sciences, European University InstituteAcademic department at the European University Institutevotes For and says:
Examples from the pandemic—the debate over covid origins and expert guidance on public health measures—will be used to (i) illustrate how Bayesian inference works, (ii) highlight shortcomings in expert reasoning, and (iii) call attention to the poten...
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European University InstituteEuropean postgraduate and postdoctoral teaching and research institutevotes For and says:
Bayesian probability provides a natural and intuitive framework for characterising and communicating uncertainty. Bayesian analysis simply applies the laws of probability to evaluate which hypothesis is more plausible in light of whatever relevant in...
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Against (68)
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Daniel EngberScience journalist and senior editor at The Atlanticvotes Against and says:
The origins of the coronavirus pandemic remain contested; the evidence is incomplete.
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Cory FranklinRetired intensive care physicianvotes Against and says:DelegateChoose a list of delegatesto vote as the majority of them.Unless you vote directly.
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LawfareNational security and legal analysis publication covering U.S. intelligence, law, and public policyvotes Against and says:
The origins of COVID-19 remain uncertain. A lab-associated incident is plausible; so is natural spillover. China’s obstruction has made the truth harder to establish, and scientific opinions vary.
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Renée DiRestaGeorgetown professor and Lawfare editorvotes Against and says:
The origins of COVID-19 remain uncertain. A lab-associated incident is plausible; so is natural spillover.
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Richard NgoAI researcher and writer on Bayesian epistemology and rationalityvotes Against and says:
In my post “Why I’m not a Bayesian”, I argued that the Bayesian approach of assigning credences to propositions with binary truth values only works in simple and restricted domains. Instead, I claimed, a better approach to epistemology is to assign d...
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The FLF TeamFuture of Life Foundation teamvotes Against and says:
Six independent Bayesian analyses of the same evidence spanned 23 orders of magnitude. [...] all this information is still incredibly difficult to navigate, interrogate, and use to inform one’s beliefs.
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Lab Leaks, Black Holes, and Eggs: Epistemic Case Study Competition2026 LessWrong/FLF case-study post comparing COVID-19 origins, black-hole, and egg debates.votes Against and says:
Over 15 hours of structured argument, two smart people marshalled epidemiological data, viral genetics, Bayesian inference, and institutional analysis to reach opposite conclusions. Two expert judges ruled decisively for zoonosis. Six independent Bay...
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James E. Erdman IIISenior Operations Officer at the Central Intelligence Agency and 2026 Senate COVID origins whistleblower witnessvotes Against and says:
The COVID origin analysis was an exercise in anchor bias. Instead of gathering data, drawing conclusions, and writing multiple products based on the data, the analysts worked from a binary choice: lab incident or natural origin.
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Valentin BruttelMolecular immunologist at the University of Würzburg.votes Against and says:
This post is like insisting that earth is flat because you and some friends took some photos on which the horizon looks flat, then insisting that others should run a bayesian analysis based only on these 5 pieces of easily manipulatable evidence.
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Peter MillerCOVID-19 origins researcher and Rootclaim debate participantvotes Against and says:
Weissman prefers a Bayesian approach, where you average over counterfactual realities, where one detail could have been different. [...] This process of averaging over different possibilities can go on forever, and no one agrees on which counterfactu...
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Alan B FranklinUSDA wildlife scientistvotes Against and says:
The competing hypotheses on the origins of SARS-CoV-2 – the pathogen responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic – have been hotly debated in the scientific literature and popular media, especially with respect to the hypothesis that SARS-Cov-2 originated ...
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COVID's origins: what we do and don't knowNature Comment article on COVID-19 origins published February 24, 2026.votes Against and says:
In the 78-page document, we determined that most of the peer-reviewed scientific evidence supports the hypothesis that SARS-CoV-2 has a zoonotic origin, meaning that it came from an animal.
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COVID-19 Global Risk Assessment- Version 9WHO rapid risk assessmentvotes Against and says:
While available information is insufficient to definitively conclude the origins of SARS-CoV-2, the independent assessment of SARS-CoV-2 origins report (June 2025) published by the Scientific Advisory Group for the Origins of Novel Pathogens (SAGO) r...
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